UK Homebusiness

Update:

If you have good reason to think you have been a victim of fraud in this case..which can mean deception, lies, lost money, get in touch with us and also contact Qld Fraud Squad:

http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/cscp/fraud/complaints.htm

 

Spoke to a guy at ukhomebusiness today by the name of Michael Pollard. He was going on about something called Percentage Betting and how it is the way the bookmakers make money. I couldnt quite follow what he was saying, and it is the first I have heard of it, or at least the way he explains it. He showed me a clients betting account at thelayexchange.com. Looked impressive but there is something funny about it..

layexchange

Where there is a client loss, it adds to the total, and when there is a client win, still represented by a negative figure, it takes away from the total. He explains that, as his actual client is the bookmaker…the total amount, and his client is taking these other bets from some punter. I asked him whether this was lay betting then but he said that this was not lay betting, yet in the screenshot you can see that it says Lay Series at the top of the table. Not sure what is going on here and will take a bit of digging…or a trial..they offer a $500 free trial where you put that amount in an account for them to trade with. Maybe theyll run off with the money. Maybe they will bet it, and if it does well, try to get you onboard for the $9,999 or $14,999 licence (!). If it doesnt go well, they will either move onto the next client and give you your money back, or move on to the next client and keep your money. I have heard from someone who is trying to get a refund. Waiting to hear…

Update: the person who was tryingto get the refund did receive it, and had also made a profit during the trial. At least I can report that they are honest enough to return the investment, plus any profits. I still think that $10,000 is way too much to just buy in to the program, and you still have to supply a bank after that. Theres just no guarantee. I would rather try to negotiate profit share or something like that than pay any upfront fee.

Opinion: treat with a fair amount of caution and refuse to invest those sums of money for upfront fees.

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Update 20/11/13: Another company running a very similar scheme has popped up:

Trading Capital Partners.Similarly you deposit $500 for a four day trial where you are guaranteed to get your money back, probably plus profit. Again you are taking some kind of part in a bookmaker’s licence. Whether it works long term or not you won’t know until you have parted with at least $9,999, and that is unlikely to be guaranteed !

15/2/14: now it is for sure that they are linked. They have both shared the bookmaker website thelayexchange,com, and the bank account WCT Operations P/L

Treat with Extreme caution!

119 thoughts on “UK Homebusiness

  1. Chee

    Hi all,
    I am also a victim of UKHBB scam.
    Until now, I had received 3 payments from Sentry in April, May and June but only 1% of my deposit in each of those month ($50 per month of my $5000 account). Nothing since July and I probably won’t receive any more. Even if they do pay me, at the rate that they are paying, it will take 100 months to get my deposit back that is if they paid me every month without misses.
    I know that we have all been conned by UKHBB and those con-men had taken off with our money and retired who knows where.
    However, after reading your stories and how much all of you had lost, I can’t help but ask myself this question: “how could we, grown up and educated people be so easily sucked into scam like this and handed over our hard earned money so easily when we don’t even know who or what this company does?”
    Then I realised it was “greed” and “hope of easy money (especially tax free)” that made me so vulnerable to these scams. Instead of blaming those people in UKHBB, I should blame myself.
    Sad to say, what gone is gone and life has to go on. I only hope that all of us had learned our lessons and had become wiser through this experience.
    I know it is hard to pursue court action against UKHBB. I am also sorry to hear that some of you loss huge amount of money, if there is a word of comfort I could offer you (and myself), it will be this: realised that life is a journey and not a destination, let’s enjoy every ups and downs throughout this journey. Be it good or bad, they are there to make our journey more exciting and memorable.
    I hope I haven’t offended anyone.
    Cheer up.

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    1. admin Post author

      Very wise words Chee, and it is very important to look inside, for deeper reasons as to why these things happen.
      The scammers are very clever and good at their art of deceipt and deception, so in a way people can be forgiven for believing.
      It is true: people who are content with their lot generally do not fall for scams. We should always be thankful for what we have, today, and not be too eager for more.

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    2. Kaas

      I have the same story. Received 3 installments (Apr, May and Jun) and thereafter none. Sent couple of reminders but no response. For those who have taken the legal course is there any further update.

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    1. Peter

      Just wondering if anyone has been receiving their monthly instalments from Sentry. I rec’d my first instalment on 9th June but have not yet received my July instalment which was due 1st July.
      Pete

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      1. Diane

        I also received my first instalment early June and have not received my second. I think I might send them another email.

        Diane

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      2. Harry

        Hello All, please file a civil case against the fraudsters, the local police or ACCC or consumer dept and other govt authorities have washed off their hands saying it’s not under their scope of work, I wonder how such fraudsters are let to run and operate such ruthless illegal businesses they do have ABN and registrations. ASIC does not have responsibilities in context to hundreds of hard working Aussies being ripped off. It’s sad but the legal authorities have no say in this matter. I had been passed on to various govt depts but none would come to the rescue or to our recovery of our hard earned money. I had even check with fraud reporting dept to check the company prior to joining UKHBB, they did not even respond nor did advice anything negative. The only hope is to file a civil case. good luck all.

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  2. Natalie

    Hi All,

    I am also unfortunately involved in this scam and will do whatever is required to gain some more information and a possible refund.

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    1. Pete

      I to was sucked in by UK Home Business. Paid a $5,000 trading deposit and a $10,000 licence fee.
      I have not yet filled in my form for Sentry but did receive an email from them the other day reminding me to get my form in so they can start repaying me.
      So I will send the form in and see what happens. It sounds like some people have started to get some money back from Sentry.

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  3. Neil

    Yesterday, 17th April 2014 Sentry gaming sent an email that they have sent first instalments and people have received it. Can anyone can confirm of receiving the first instalment.

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    1. david

      hi Neil i have not received my first instalment and the second is due at the end of the month did you email andrew weir .it looks like pacific international gaming have big problems with this man . Could you e mail at ****@hotmail.com on what should we all do about this . david

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  4. Kaas

    i have the same story as others. Same individuals and numbers. Anyways got the email from Sentry Gaming about the refund procedure. Applied on their form and got the 1st month’s installment within a week. So far so good. Hope it continues as indicated.

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  5. Tiger

    The lay Exchange, UK home business, Investment Software Solution and many more all working together, and operate in Australia.
    How UK Home Business is still selling on line?
    How Investment Software Solution Selling on line?
    Why police does not track the money to see where is it gone?
    Isnt it like money laundering?
    You can call this people and talk to them personally in some stages.
    They have registered a company with ASIC or Fairtrading.
    They had to provide correct information to them if not who is to blame?
    Of course ASIC or fair trading.
    If we you can not get every cents of your money back, if police could not help to find this people. The last thing is to sue ASIC Or Fairtrading.
    Then here is the catch, ASIC and fair trading will look at the issue seriously and involve police to bring these pigs to justice otherwise they have to pay people or a class action.

    I am going to get more advise on this issues.

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    1. Harry

      Hello All, ALL PERTH, WA BASED PLEASE CONTACT WOCAN FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE FRAUDSTERS INCLUDING THE GOVT AUTHORITIES WHO HAVE LET SUCH BUSINESSES OPERATE. TO THIS DATE THE WEBSITE IS STILL ACTIVE. THANKS

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  6. Tony

    Hi all. I have read with interest and trepidation how everybody has been affected in some way by James Watson and Geoff (no idea of last name as he has never told me) from UK Home Based Business or just UKHomebusiness.

    Mobile phone numbers I have on file are:
    James Watson 1/ 0434 746 174
    James Watson 2/ 0434 740 959
    James Watson 3/ 0498 646 663

    Geoff ? 0434 746 175

    Prior to our signing up, we were contacted at least twice a week by James Watson, who claims he was a boiler maker and having worked out of Garden Island and Cockatoo Dockyards in Sydney, loves to ride Harley Davidson bikes, having custody issues with his ex about his son and quite approachable. Geoff on the other hand was an arrogant piece of work. We asked for a fair amount of information and I had regular contact with James Watson even after we actually joined UKHBB. We bought a seven (7) year licence, not the usual five (5) for $20 000.00 and then provided $10 000.00 for the trading account being managed by TheLayExchange.com. We generally did okay at first and then the losses started to become more frequent. All of a sudden, I started to receive calls from a Geoff (unknown surname) who claimed that he and his son were operating from underneath their home on the Gold Coast and were acting on behalf of James Watson.

    After we started to sustain a reasonable amount of losses, I contacted Geoff wanting to cancel our account and withdraw all funds as the account was not providing what was clearly stated in all of our preamble. Geoff asked that we reconsider and that after 01 February 2014, the trading platform was being upgraded and should provide a better return to which I reluctantly agreed. Despite the supposed upgrade, the account continued to make consistent losses. I sent off requests to have money withdrawn, as we have done every month prior without issue, to then suddenly be stone walled by TheLayExchange and also a Rick from EzyLayTrading advising me that according to their terms and conditions, things had changed and that we could take out no more then 10 per cent of the $10 000 account balance. I basically saw red over this and made my feelings well and truly public knowledge.

    As a result, still no withdraw of funds. I continued to check every day how our account had fared to suddenly find that the site was under maintenance and that all funds had been frozen due to their accounts being compromised. Despite a plethora of phone messages and emails left and sent, to date I have heard nothing except what everybody else is receiving in their inbox advising what Sentry are doing about the refund of monies. If you actually read the conditions carefully, it clearly states that if the authorities are involved, they will effectively close everything and everybody loses. I dislike such threats and basically told them so. To date, we have not signed any forms about the supposed refunds as we have no doubt that the little dribs and drabs that these parasites will pay will suddenly dry up.

    I referred to the ASIC Website and retrieved the latest Registered Business Name address for UKHBB to be

    Milton Business Centre
    Level 2/143 Coronation Drive
    Milton Qld 4064

    I went to this address only to find that it is one office acting as a Virtual Office, namely it has many businesses registered here and they simply take your call, record a message and pass that onto the respective business that you are trying to contact.

    I spoke at length with two lovely ladies within associated with this business and they did their best to allay my issues. I will keep their names from this update as a matter of course. If anybody needs their details, I will provide, but will not publicly name them yet. Whilst there, I was provided with an address for UKHBB on the Gold Coast which is

    12-14 Executive Drive, Burleigh Waters and two contact names and numbers

    John Cain 0402 360 643
    Mel D 0434 746 165

    A lot of information was transferred between the three of us and I left knowing a lot more then when I first went in. I also discovered that upon their discovering that UKHBB was conducting fraudulent activities, they immediately de-registered UKHBB from their actual address approximately 3 months earlier. Despite their imparting a lot of insight, I still question the legitimacy of their words. I was promised an email the very next day outlining their next steps advice and also the supposed contact for a lawyer purported to be conducting a class action against UKHBB. To date, no information, let alone an email has been forthcoming and numerous phone and email messages left, so I feel that they may have been silenced type thing. Anyway, if anyone requires this information for any lawsuits that they are considering, and also need witnesses, I am only too happy to assist.

    With that in mind, today, we reported to police what information that I have gathered over the past 5 months since joining UKHBB 09 October 2013. We were essentially advised by the respective police officer that we were affected by a scam, his assumption and not based on fact as he had only just now heard our point of view. I really do hope they catch these bottom dwelling parasites, but the unfortunate thing is they will simply close up shop and start trading as someone or something else. Business and trading laws in Australia are pathetic to say the least. I do wish everybody a positive outcome to this saga and that hopefully all funds will be rightfully returned to their original owners. I wish everybody affected by this, including us, every success in catching these parasites and incarcerating them for life.

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    1. Jacqueline

      The detective handling the fraud cases involving UKHBB, The Lay Exchange, as well as it’s replicate scam, Lay Trading Solutions and Ezy Lay Trading is Karen Martin, Fraud Squad, Detective Seargent 9221, Task Force Maxima, Criminal Economy Unit, QLD Police. Submit a report of the fraud to your local police and ask for it to be forwarded to Karen Martin per above.

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  7. Shelley

    It is just coming back to me from many years ago, there was a Geoff Evans that worked at the race coarse on the Gold Coast as a security Officer, I would imagine that he would be retired as he was well into his 60’s about 15 years ago. But I had heard that he was still working there about 7 years ago, which surprised me because of his age, I wonder if this is the same Geoff Evans?
    They would have employee records from the past, maybe the fraud squad could look into this.
    Shelley

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  8. Nev

    I invested with UK Homes lay exchange last year and tried to contact them but no avail just distorted voice message. My account is closed also.
    The phone numbers I have are: George 0434 740 666, Michael 0434 746 172, Geoff 0434 745 395
    What do we need to do to get our money back

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  9. Margie

    I have also invested? $30,000 in March 2013. However I have received o email or phone call from UK Home Business or the Lay Exchange re the suspension. I have tried 3 times to withdraw money from my account. The first I was asked for bank details but when I went to give it to The Lay Exhange I had gone backwards in the account. The second time I was up $5000 in the account and I asked to withdraw $4000 just before Xmas, I actually received a call from someone who said the Lay Exchange told him that I could not withdraw as the betting was now for a Place and would be locked in for 12 months and during this time I could not withdraw! Early this year I tried to withdraw $100 thinking if I made small withdrawals I may gradually get some money back. I then received an email from Lay Exchange saying my account was under The Uk Home Business and it was a Jackpot account which I meant that I could not withdraw. I then attempted to phone the people I previously spoked to as I had put their numbers in my phone and discovered that the numbers were now disconnected or not available. Then we were hit with the suspension and no contact or news whatsoever until I discovered this site. I will support whatever action is agreed to. We should go for all our money up front.

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    1. max

      the form is up on the website.

      i have too been drawn into this scam and delt with Micheal Pollard. my account was only small due to my circumstances at the time. i feel for those who had large investments. i will be happy to join the joint civil action if one is to go ahead and will be sending a fraud report to the police as well.

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      1. Kyle

        Just putting my name in the pot to support any action that someone starts. I dont know enough about any of this to do it myself, however I am going down to report it to the QLD police as soon as I finish writing this. Cheers

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  10. Lloyd

    I have received the email from Sentry also. I sent a question to them asking if this includes thelayexchange and UK Home business , but no reply. When i try to go into thelayexchange website the same message is there that has been recently and no form to download.Anyone else tried to look at that , or is Sentry and the lay exchange one and the same ?

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    1. jenny

      Hi Lloyd,
      Who knows??. .we are all at a loss I think at to what is really going on?
      I am just hoping that a release form does actually appear on the layexchange website as all I get to is the message from Feb 25th.
      I’ve sent numerous emails to sentry and the layexchange with no reply as yet!! So frustrating.;-(

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  11. John

    Hi all I’ve been speaking with a few people in the same situation as all of us one particular guy who has put 200k into this, he as am I are of the belief that we should have a spokesperson who communicates with Sentry so we all aren’t going in different directions, we both obviously as would everyone like all the money we have invested but if it means we can recoup the funds in the layexchange/sentry accounts something is better than nothing, we all would need to agree on the course of action or decision we make in relation to what Sentry have offered us, please let me know what your thoughts are on this.

    John

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    1. jenny

      Hi John,
      I am happy for someone to be spokesperson as I definitely would like to see at least some of my money back if not all..
      But how are you gong to contact them as they do not respond??
      I am hoping to see these so called release forms as promised on the layexchange website but so far nothing?? so are they just delaying tactics and then gong to tell us they have gone onto liquidation??
      Anyone got any updates on the release forms??

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    2. Kris

      Hi john,
      I am also trying to get my money back or some money !
      I have had the same response from sentry the lay exchange as you !
      they have sent out that email but it is a dead end there is no release forms on the layexchange account
      UK Home Business don’t answer phone or emails
      I got the lay exchange website & was talking to someone on the chat online , soon as I mentioned what had happened he basically said that it was nothing to do with the lay exchange & that it involved sentry gaming & he ended conversation !
      should I report to the fraud squad
      Keep me posted !
      Kris

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  12. John Sheridan

    I’ve been scammed by these people and received an email last night from sentry gaming saying that we can get our initial investment back plus interest does any one know anything about this.

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    1. Jenny

      Hi John,
      we received the email also yesterday and whether or not its true time will tell.I bloody hope it is .
      We still have put in a he fraud report to QLD police.

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  13. Daniel

    Hi all,
    I have also been stung by UK Home Based Business. Michael Pollard is the name I had and the amount invested is $20000 licence and $10000 working account.
    I am extremely worried as I am getting no information.
    Regards,
    Daniel

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  14. Adam

    Hi,

    I’m In the same situation as many people posted here. Invested all I had into this and now no contact and can’t get anything out of sentry gaming either. As everyone is, I too am very afraid to loose all the money. Has anyone have any progress with the situation so far? If so please let us know via email or through this website. I feel so alone in this at the moment not being able to do anything or know what is happening.

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  15. John

    Has anyone had any positive contact with anyone from Sentry or the Police yet? I’ve also got an account that has gone AWOL. I’ve had dealings with Michael Pollard and Geoff Evans from UKHBB and would be more than happy to add my information to any authority that you guys may have found who is investigating this.

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  16. Adam

    Hi,

    I am in the same boat as everyone else. Invested and at this point have no idea what sentry gaming are doing or the lay exchange. Have sent a couple emails to both however just get the auto response from sentry gaming. No contact from uk home biz and cannot find a contact number for sentry gaming, the numbers I had for uk home biz were of

    Eddie Martin 0434 746 170 & Old mate Geoff 0434 746 175.

    If anyone makes any progress with what is going on please let us know via this website or email.

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    1. Travis

      Hi too had Geoff’s number however it was 0434 745 395. (Slightly different to yours)
      Also Michael Pollard 0434 746 172
      Also Tony (unsure last name) 0434 742 391.

      All of which do not work!!
      I only invested 15K due to my scepticisms however I will be behind any action collectively we are willing to take.

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  17. Lloyd

    Yes …..ditto for me similar story to the overall picture herein. paid $20 k upfront and 10k into thelayexchange betting account which “on paper” had grown to 18k , after me recently withdrawing 3 k .
    A strange thing was that when i made the request to withdraw the funds , and didn’t twig to it at the time , was that the call came from everyones friend Geoff of UKHB , not from thelayexchange , and it arrived in my account a few days later. We would all hope that their story is true , but if i was running a genuine company and had a genuine software issue , my immmediate action would be to bulk email everyone to inform them what was going on , and continue to provide frequent updates. I too have the same mobile numbers for James and Geoff , that nobody answers. Not smelling real good !

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  18. Carol

    I read form someone in this thread earleier on that he worked at Trading Capital Partners and he described how he was told to use a false name to avoid being tracked.
    Now, wouldn’t that alert you, as an employee to criminal activity, whic you as an employee are then knowingly taking part in?
    So, with this I would doubt that Rose Thompson, Geoff Evans, or any of the so called sales people/account managers used their real names.

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  19. Frustrated

    Hi All,
    I have the same nightmare as everyone else. I have invested $100k and that b*** Rose Thompson has a lot to answer for. If by some miracle anyone can track her, I would love her details. I used a private investigator in QLD with no real outcomes. The offices were either empty or were virtual offices. I have also had my solicitor send 3 letters of demand to 3 addresses. Two came back return to sender and one was delivered to the Director/Secretary. His name is Patrick John Kane and resides at 5b Rivage Place, Highland Park QLD 4211. If any one is in the vicinity, can you check this address out and let us all know if he still lives there.
    I’ve also sent a 6 page report to QLD police at cciu@police.qld.gov.au. I suggest that everyone does the same thing. I have also had dealings with Geoff Evans and as you are all aware, no one is answering phones, returning phone calls or replying to emails. I too have received the same email from Sentry Gaming but I’m not holding my breath. I am so angry as the money I invested was my life savings. I am so frustrated with the lack of communication from UKHBB. This would have to be the worst business I have every dealt with. A bunch of A***** – the lot of them. I just hope the police get onto this so that we may recoupe our hard earned dollars.

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    1. Carol

      Hi Frustrated,

      Do you have a phone number or email I could contact you on please?. Or could you pass it on to Admin for this page?

      These as*****s obviously have no conscience. I dont know how they sleep at night.

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    2. John

      Hi Frustrated,

      I have looked up the address you posted and John Patrick Kane is not the owner but the way the ownership is structured is mind blowing, if we can get some other names of the directors of UKHB I can do so more digging, I don’t like saying to much on this forum as you don’t know who can see what we are saying, I think we need to work with Sentry but UKHB is another matter, hope you all feel the same way, if we can get the money we put in the accounts first then start a plan of action on UKHB

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  20. jenny

    I just tried to log onto the layexchange website AGAIN clinging to hope… and its back up!! the message it displays is as below, so everyone lets hold hope there is some truth and their maybe a resolution in sight and we will all be OK.
    UKHBB has still a lot of answers and I don’t trust them but maybe sentry and the lay are going to sort this for us.
    NOTICE 25th February 2014

    Dear Clients

    This site is temporarily suspended, as all client trading is suspended, pending our enquiry into what appears to be a software malfunction of a third party betting feed provider. This malfunction has appeard to have inadvertently affected client account balances and we are seeking advice on a solution

    We sincerely apologize for any difficulty caused by this problem, however please be reassured that we intend to be up and trading again as soon as possible.

    Once we have identified the problem and calculated the correct position of accounts, your accounts will be restored and our service will continue.

    We appreciate your patience and hope to restore operations soon.

    Kind Regards

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  21. G

    Hi, I have invested $24 k . Why do you think they are all linked. What email are you getting from them? I think I am going to lose a lot of money because a got an email from the lay exchange saying my account has been suspended due to tampering with the system.

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    1. G

      Did you invest as we’ll?
      Do you know about the current situation?
      Would it be ok if we kept in touch, I really feel alone in this. Would a class civil action be something that people like myself should do together. What are the chances of getting money back from uk home business. Who would you sue anyway?

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    2. G

      Would it be ok if we kept in touch, I really feel alone in this. Would a class civil action be something that people like myself should do together. What are the chances of getting money back from uk home business. Who would you sue anyway?

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  22. G

    Hi, I invested a total of $16k on licence and $10 k in my trading account, I got $12k back but now I have emails from e lay exchange saying they have suspended my account due to suspicious activity.. I can share with you the emails… I don’t know what to do… I could lose $14k and I feel physically sick every day. I really need help.

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  23. Joe

    I have one account did the trial seemed good so I went ahead $10,000 for licence and $10,000 for
    account I almost think the license fee is lost I hope I can get my money back from the lay exchange
    the last time I checked it was at $13,000. I was signed up by Rose Thompson who disapeared
    Im so angry, anyway can someone keep me posted

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    1. Admin

      Nothing is lost yet. You still have your account which has grown. You’ll need to wait for the outcome of the investigations to know where you stand.

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      1. Carol

        Alot of peple have the bigger proportion of their money invested in the licence/s, which cannot be retrieved unless by legal action if UKHBB doesnt come back. For alot of people Im sure their deposits to fund the account and subsequent winnings will only cover a small portion of the total.

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        1. Jenny

          Hi Carol,you are very right , even if we get back the money in our layexchage accounts …we all will no doubt have lost significant amounts in our initial joining fee with UKHBB,so like Charles has said in his post below , the more information we continue to get on these guys through this website i hope the more chance there will be to get UKHBB prosecuted.

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  24. Michael

    My understanding is Sentry Gaming are quite legitimate and develop various non-gambling games software, and I was surprised they were involved in the gambling business. It seems, from their email, they had the authority (under their franchise agreement/s) to seize/ freeze the bank accounts and give an assurance that legitimate account balanaces will be paid out ASAP, pending their getting proper legal direction. (No mention of licence fees that we have paid exhorbently for). They will obviously be focused on protecting themselves from future messy legal actions, potentially from us, I expect bookmakers and regulators, and even UK Home Business owners.

    I am not a lawyer but have fairly extensive experience working on litigation with lawyers and with Police to gain fraud convictions, and from my own dealings with UKHB people, I suspect they would be anticipating by now that they will have to ultimately defend themselves in Court. Faced with the prospects of around 2 years jail, I hope they would try and settle with us before any Court action occured. But I expect they have already blown the funds on their own failed gambling escapades, which seems most common in my past experiences, and legally “hidden” small amounts to survive on once they knew it was all going “pearshaped”.

    I expect Admin’s view of Sentry Gaming will be close to the mark and we will get some clear proposals from them later this week. Meantime, I agree we should download and complete the form from the Queensland Police website to report UKHB and put them in the “hot seat” so we get some answers, and perhaps a willingness for UKHB owners to try and work out a deal with us for anything we are left out of pocket by. Probably the Detective Jenny has spoken to would not be able to handle a mob of us giving him information as he will have to give priority to solving murders etc, so probably best to deal directly with Fraud Squad (via website initially)?

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    1. Charles

      Criminal proceedings will take at least 6 to 12 months as all the various police reports will require extensive investigation to identify evidence before action can be taken. At least 40 people have now come forward through this web site and if all submit a detailed police report, we have a higher probability of getting some focus by the police and fraud squad. This may put the scammers in jail but will not retrieve our money.
      Civil proceedings will help us recover our money. The information gathered from this group is excellent and will prove invaluable when targeting the many scammers from the Gold Coast.
      I will make contact to discuss which of the legal firms we can engage. The amount we will be suing for will be significant.

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  25. Ed

    I didn’t even know that all this was going on. I trusted George. He would not be to blame. Hope something can be done to recoup all of our hard earned money.

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  26. Anne

    I think they are all joined together lay exchange, sentry gaming & uk home based business as I get the exact same email back from all of them.

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  27. Shelley

    I have already posted a message before this. I have had a small account since May last year it was only a small one of $5000 because that’s all I could afford. I grew but very slowly. The rate is was growing was not even going to get my $5000 back. Then December 18th last year I received a call from Michael Pollard, he went onto explain that the reason why my account was so slow is because it was too small. For it work properly it needed to have more funds. He talked me into sending another $7000 on that day which I really could not afford but I thought if he was correct I would get my money back a lot quicker than it had been. Then I received an e-mail from the office saying they were trading with only one person over the Xmas period and if anyone needed to contact the office they could only leave a message and they would get back to you on the 20th Jan when office was open. I called on 20th – no answer only a message system. I tried to call the number that I had for Michael Pollard and the number was disconnected. I tried to contact the company and left messages, I then sent an e-mail saying that I think this is looking like a scam. Then I received a call from a Geoff Pollard who said he would see where my $7000 had gone, he asked me to send him copies of the bank transaction as I sent them a cheque and banked it to Westpac account name UK Home Based Business BSB 034-230 Acc 351-864.
    Geoff called me back and said he would pass this onto UK home business admin office. Geoff then sent me a e-mail with six account numbers and this was called “Jackpot account” Geoff did call me back to check that I received it. I asked him how did this work and he said that when one account gets full it flows into one of the six account until they all become active. I asked him “where is my $7000? and he just said it must have gone into account set up .I was so angry this was not what Michael Pollard had explained and the other accounts were not active at all , so I was still running with the original account that was so slow. The interesting thing is one of the accounts is with http://www.platinumodds.com and it has an account set up with $30.28 in my name, but it’s not trading.???????
    Then 22nd Feb the site closed down and I contacted this site and saw what was happening. The only thing that I have noticed that others received an e-mail from Sentry Gaming. I haven’t received anything from any body.
    This is my whole story.

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    1. Darren

      Shelley I got the same garble about the jackpot account, I had $3,000 transferred to platinumodds. If I ever catch up with these people it will not be pretty. I have little faith sentry gaming will do anything to recover, even partially, our funds.

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      1. jenny

        Hi Darren,
        Platinumodds still has a website , and I was able to get the small amount of money I had in that account that was set up by Uk home business just last week before all this stuff happened, but I had to actually had to request that the account be COMPLETELY closed, sent in my 100 points of Id and bank details.
        I got the money back within 48 hours and into my bank account.
        The others accounts with the layexchange set up by Uk have disappeared, as everyone else is experiencing, but you maybe ok with the platinum odds. good luck.:-)

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        1. Carol

          Jenny same deal with me with platinim odds. I got my small bit of cash from them and the account closed last week also.

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  28. jenny

    we have had the same problem the message from sentry gaming saying our accounts are suspended…the lay exchange site has disappeared along with what looks like our money!! I have what looks like a self generated response from sentry games saying they cannot comment and we need to wait and they will be touch. Very worried.

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    1. Damian Straede

      Hi Jenny,

      Lost.s of sleepless nights here, worked extremely hard to have a large offset account for our mortgage of $110,000.00 now facing a bleak future of the unknown. Have not given up though, we have a Detective from Qld Police on the case. By the way did anyone deal with a so called Rose Thompson, would love to find her whereabouts.

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      1. Darren

        Damian my only dealings were with Geoff Evans and Michael Pollard. I am more than happy to speak with the detective involved to provide any information that may be useful.

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        1. jenny

          When we first joined up we tried to get our money back as we felt right from the start something was wrong. we went through Queensland police, Qld fair trading a lot of other avenues… even as far as seeking some legal help no one could really help as they said it was a gambling syndicate it was out of their jurisdiction??? This made me furious, so we continued on just hoping we would slowly make our money back. Our accounts have hardly moved and we are no where near making our initial joining fee up and we have lost approx. $8000 all up , which is a lot less to what I have been reading, but to us this $8000 was pretty much all we had so we are now going to struggle!!
          we dealt with George Ghias who suddenly disappeared and then dealt with Geoff who we never us his last .
          We had our 2 accounts in the so called jackpot system though we did not set this up nor give permission for them to take out money to put into these accounts , then to discover we could not withdraw from our accounts?? and now can’t as they no longer appear to exist. However just before the is whole thing disappeared I did get one account closed though platinum odds..an account I had not set up!! but that was with endless emails, but they are a different company not the layechange so ?? totally confused frustrated and upset by this whole mess and am happy to put forward any info to QLD police again if need be.

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          1. Shelley

            Still nothing happening and I thought it would be interesting if I listed any mobile numbers that may match with the people that have had to contact these so called customer service reps
            The first contact was Darren ? 0434 740 959
            The second contact Michael Pollard 0434 741 127
            The third contact Geoff Evans 0434 746 175
            These numbers are now disconnected as you know or it has a recorded message. but as you can see they all start with 0434—–. these numbers could match up with any of the numbers that other people have been given with the so called customer service person with a different name.

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      2. Karl

        Hi Damian,

        I dealt with ‘Rose Thompson’, she sold me a $20,000 license with a $10,000 trading account and now I’m in the same terrible position as everyone else who became involved with UK Home Business. I was not able to contact Rose in the new year and after finally getting a call back from Geoff, he simply informed me that ‘Rose just didn’t came back after the christmas’. I continued to ask him as to how this was possible but not real answers were given. This is when i first began to really worry……! I too am looking in to the whereabouts of ‘Rose’. Please let us all know if any updates from Qld Police come through.

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        1. Vince

          We dealt with Rose. Lovely story about opening accounts for her parents to help their pension and paying bills- and was going to open them for her sons when she got more money! Quoted nice monthly returns which seemed to appear and then by October we were barely making anything. Very hard to contact her by phone after that. Didn’t return any of our calls .Happy to support the group and see if we can get a return.

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      3. jenny

        Hi Damian, Yep its been such a stress on us to.
        If you need any info from us with QLD detective I am more than happy to help as I want this resolved.
        I haven’t heard of Rose, we dealt with George Ghias who suddenly disappeared and Geoff who to is now uncontactable.:-(

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        1. jenny

          Has anyone else received this email, I’ve sent numerous emails to both the layexhange and sentry games this is their response to any question I ask, so to me it is a self generated answer to keep us quiet???
          Hi
          We are unable to discuss further at this stage. We are led to believe that a full reimbursement of deposited funds and legitimate winnings less any withdrawals will be made.
          Expect a direction from Sentry Gaming’s lawyers in the near future.

          Regards
          Sentry Gaming Limited

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          1. Admin

            Yes, it’s disappointing, and I’m sure frustrating, that that is all you hear, but you should be hearing news fairly soon.

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      4. Carol

        Damien,

        I was dealing with Rose Thompson. Her moble number is still active but its a recorded message the same as the ones the 1300 number used to give.

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      5. Carol

        Damien,

        May I propose a question to you?
        Will the detective be investigating with a view to getting your/our money back or with the motivation to get an arrest, some brownie points and revenue for the government.?
        I have a bit of a hard time trusting police and goverment.

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  29. Bill

    I started with UKHBB in March 13. This after their $1000 trial which yielded $65. I also was given access to some master account which showed a net profit of $35000 from $10000, in previous year. Therefore purchased a 5 year Lay Betting package for Aust market for $ 20000 and put $10000 into a trading account. A $2500 profit in 1st 6 weeks was good. Conned into purchasing an Asian Package for further $14000 with $5000 in account. By late July the Aust account had lost money and Asian acc was going ok. They decided to change to a place betting system on the Aust market with a guarantee of no losing months… providing I didn’t withdraw any funds for 6 months. The place betting went well till end of October. However Nov Dec and Jan all were significant loss months. Unfortunately the refund of losses I was expecting with the guarantee didn’t eventuate. I found that communication with UKHBB, which was pretty difficult all through, totally dried up in January.It seemed strange to me that in all betting types things could be going well for a while and then all of a sudden they would go badly and not recover. Probably some sort of manipulation of betting. As with others , the Lay exchange website could not be accessed on 23rd Feb and therefore no access to accounts. I can only hope that we can retrieve the remaining balances of our accounts.
    Overall the whole thing is a scam with all promises and guarantees given by UKHBB totally false.

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    1. Hi..Bill

      Yes…I have Rose..Tara..Carl..Daren baxter..then I have got Geroge Ghias..Geroge disappeared in January 2014..and then I have got Geoff Evans…now 12/03/2014..they all have disappeared..yes I have had a big talked by these people,and they did convienced me to put my hard earned money to the lay bets accounts..I have been with them for about six months..it looks O K..UNTIL JANUARY 2014..now I am hopefully I can get some money back…as I have received an email from centrygambling saying we may get our money back..how much we do not know ..let’s HOPE ALL.

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  30. Shelley

    I have gone through the very same thing as other people have commented on. I did the trial run at first for 4 days and it cost me $1,000 to do that for 4 days and it returned $67 in that time. After that I thought it sounded good and sent another $4,000 to start up a very small account as far as they were concerned. I was told it would return my money that I had laid out plus profit much better than a bank. This was May last year 2013. The account wasn’t doing great but was growing at a snail rate and I even thought as it grew slowly that I could have made more money with fixed investment in the bank. Then I received a call from a Michael Pollard from UK home business and he told me that the reason why my account was not moving very fast was it wasn’t big enough. He talked me into sending another $7000 and he would upgrade it to a $10,000 account and watch it grow now.This was 18/12/2013. I have not seen the evidence of that $7000 since then, So I contacted the company many many many times with no answer, then finally a man called me by the name Geoff Evans, he told me that he would look into it I sent him copies of my receipts and a copy of contract that Michael Pollard had e-mailed me. Geoff Evans sounded like he would get to the bottom of this but still no answer. Then yesterday 22/02/14 there is no website to even check my small account that was growing slowly. Now the only Website I could find was this one with all you people having the same problem. So my loss at this date in last 12 months is $12,000 NOT GOOD

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    1. Darren

      Similar story to you all, I have invested $30,000, the account was at about $31,000 as at cob Friday. I’m not sure where too from here. Has anyone confirmed the legitimacy of Sentrygaming?

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        1. Carol

          As far as you know? Can you back that up Admin?
          Lets face it, if they were a legitimate company they would be in touch with their clients, acknowledging that there has been a stuff up, letting everyone know they are still here. Have any clients received an email from UKHB, or a phone call?
          Whats next, the UKHB website goes down. I dont think they will even bother to get it down. I think UKHB are laughing all the way to some tropical paradise by now.
          John Patrick Kane, … hes’ the director of UKHB
          How many of you at least did a company search?
          They have enough money to go and just dissappear for the rest of their lives, now.
          Well ya gotta hand it to em, dont ya? Well done guys. Good work. Great scam.

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          1. Admin

            Well, Sentry Gaming have been in touch, even though they could quite easily have turned a blind eye.
            Or did you mean UKHB?
            Just remember, no -one has actually lost money yet with UKHB.
            It doesn’t help that they won’t answer or return calls and emails though.
            All we can say at the moment is that it seems like a very delicate house of cards.

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          2. jenny

            I have a horrible feeling you are right carol even though we had an email from sentry I am pretty convinced its all one big scam! UKHB we should have been notified of anything that is going on but we’ve never been notified of anything, they are terrible and its been the worst experience ever!! I’ve left a dozens of messages and emails and nothing… as I imagine you all have experienced too. Our contact was Geoff ,or is he the same person but using many different names!! I cant believe we fell for them, as you say Carol damn clever.:-(

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            1. Admin

              Sentry are seperate to UKHB. They have been severely affected by the operations of a few franchises and are working to resolve the situation.

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        2. Hi.Jenny

          Has anyone heard of GLOBAL MARKETING..OR PEGASUS TRADERS.COM…I lost a lot of money in the Global Marking…I think they are the same type of people..frauders…global marketing is now in liquitation..I have lost a lot money in there..

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  31. robert

    received email from a guy from Sentry gaming
    have had multple accounts Withdrawn $6,000 in total but put in a huge $75,000 6 accounts
    6 grown to $13,000 other from $10,000 to now $23,000 .this account has had $6,000 withdrawn
    All accounts growing fast and well.
    yesterday received email from sentry gaming that apparently a glitch in system

    Attention Client,

    Re: Suspension of Betting Accounts

    We regret to inform you that we have had to suspend your betting account, until we can resolve an issue that has come to our attention.

    Earlier this month, we accepted bets from operators of software contracted independently. A large number of these bets experienced dramatic variations, including wins and losses, causing such to be bought to our attention.

    Since then we have undertaken a major and costly investigation into our betting software platform, and the systems of betting feeds that we accept from software providers who bet on behalf of Master Account clients.

    We have now established that a software provider, contracted on behalf of a Master Account to bet on behalf of its members has interfered with our software accuracy and manipulated betting results. We are unable to form a view whether this has been done unlawfully or not, or whether such has caused our system to malfunction.

    Our investigations reveal that over the past twelve (12) months, software has caused results to be manipulated and results influenced, causing member accounts to be grossly over inflated from their real value. It was the large loss which occurred early this month, which bought this to our attention and enabled us to identify this serious problem.

    We have attempted to contact the two software providers we know to have worked on the system without result at this stage.

    Investigations with Master Account marketing companies, did not reveal any further information with regard to the outsourced software suppliers, and we have suggested to them to stop marketing further services, using the software providers.

    We are currently in talks with our lawyers, as to our position, and specifically how to calculate the correct position of client’s accounts. We hope to have an advice shortly, and will then revert back to you, with a proposal to refund your deposits and legitimate winnings. In the meantime, we ask for your patience until we receive such advice.

    Yours faithfully

    Hugo Magvin
    Sentry Gaming

    so currently all accounts frozen
    At this stage I have no idea what is happening
    sentry gaming advised me only I can withdraw funds from account uk home betting can only act as book maker on accounts
    read through the lines

    did they or do they have a sophisticated computer program

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    1. Charles

      ezlaytrading and the thelayexchange (and others) have a system which is easily manipulated to report bogus winnings and losses.
      There is a group operating in Qld under various names including Lay Trading Solutions, UK Home Business, Trading Capital Partners (and others) who have totally misrepresented information to all their clients and taken our money (including software licences, account deposits, and “winnings”.
      Report all information to the police asap.

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    2. Darren

      Common theme, I invested $30,000, account as at close of business Friday was about $31,000. Has anyone had further contact from Sentry gaming or raised this with QLD police? Please email me via admin@aussiescamalert.com if you have any updates or contacts I can escalate this too.

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      1. Carol

        I raised some things with my local police, Gold Coast Police, and Crimestoppers 2 weeks ago None of them were interested. They said.”Well, they haven’t done anyhting wrong. I said well what do we have to do, wait till they do. Well then its too late. They basically just wished me luck..
        Gold Coast is where these b***** were / are operating from opearting from.

        Is there anyone on the gold coast who can go and check out some addresses?

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        1. david

          hi carol i live on the gold coast i am with uk home business i took out the package 9,000 and 6,000 was for the licence and 3,000 for to gaming with the layexchange i can check out the addresses for you i just like my money back from them i am hopeing that sentry gaming will help all of us

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    3. jenny

      Weve been with Uk home business fro a year now and I have nothing good to say.our accounts have been very slow and we have not even come close to making up our joining fee.
      On Friday 22nd feb received the same email and no longer can view or accounts or seem to get hold of anyone at Uk home business, they will not answer or rely to any emails. But what’s new!!
      I have later received another email from sentry and the same email from the lay exchange as I have sent them several questions regarding not being able to see our accounts anymore and a little more info about the situation and if they are legitimate… and the reply I have got has been the same for every question from both sentry and thelayexchange is as below. I suppose we can hope this is going to happen..
      Hi,
      We are unable to discuss further at this stage. We are led to believe that a full reimbursement of deposited funds and legitimate winnings less any withdrawals will be made.
      Expect a direction from Sentry Gaming’s lawyers in the near future.

      Regards
      Sentry Gaming Limited

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  32. Charles

    UK Home Business (LayExchange) is run by the same group running Lay Trading Solutions (EzyLayTrading) in Qld. LTS also reported a “computer glitch” following wiping out significant balances on most accounts on 2 Feb. Report all details to Qld police and fraud squad asap.

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    1. robert

      reporting to police is one thing but has anyone got any idea of the parties involved
      ie names .addresses, offices
      police need leeds

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      1. Carol

        the trouble with giving police leads is that the government are the only ones who end up with our money instead of us getting our money back.

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        1. Carol

          Everyones got that on their contracts Darren.
          Is there anyone on the Gold Coast who can go and check out some addresses. I have a few that I obtained through my own investigtions and just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
          Is there anyone in the Gold Coast with some balls who could go and check out some addresses.

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          1. Admin

            I would advise a fair degree of caution in undertaking live investigations on your own. You never know who you may be dealing with.

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        2. Jarrod

          That address is crap, I called the number that comes up on a google search its just a phone answering service place, they said they no longer take calls for UKHB

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  33. Philip

    I was employed at Trading Capital Partners. I was made to change my name to an assumed name that became Philip Hunt, so I couldn’t be tracked. I was made to become a sole trader so taxes, etc were my responsibility. The manager Brad used his middle name James to his potential customers. I ringing leads for people to by selling a $500.00 promotion that traded over 4 days, Wednesday till Saturday where it was traded as a bookmaker and money was won if the chosen horses lost and like a bookmaker kept the punted money for it to win. This usually returned 6.8% that was tax free as winnings on gaming is not taxed. I had finally sold a package and my commission on the sale was to be $1800.00 but before I got paid the parent company in Queensland sacked the manager and Trading Capital Partners folded and the company kept my commision

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    1. Admin

      Great information. Thanks Philip ! Trading Capital Partners are still trading though! Maybe they just told you they folded!

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    2. Carol

      Hello Graeme,

      Have you had any luck with UK Home Business? I am a client of theirs and also and although my accounts are still operating I cannot contact anyone. There is a guy Geoff Evans which i doubt is his real name who makes promises to do things any to this day has not done one thing he has been asked. I have other account with them want to activate and cant get hold of anyone. Thanks for your post. Please let me know how you have gone.

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      1. robert

        now the site is down
        it must be the same people
        gameSentry.com emailed me please read my detailed email

        dont even know who they are

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        1. Admin

          Sentry Gaming are like a parent bookmaking firm. They sold licences to affiliates so other people could operate their own bookmaking accounts.
          They were unaware that hacking seems to have been going on in some cases. They are investigating the matter. Sounds like they will at least be guaranteeing lost deposits. I believe Sentry Gaming are innocent of any invoilvement in scams. They are being pro-active in bringing about a resolution to these cases.

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          1. Carol

            Admin,

            If they are being proactive they are not telling us about it except for the automatic email. I dont think the automatic reply emals are really cutting the mustard. There are hundreds if not thousands extremely anxious clients out there, its been 4 days since the site went down. One would think they would be sending a blanket email just assuring everyone that they are still about. Just a different email than the auto one would tell us that there are real people there. So far its not looking very professional in my opinion. And you only get the auto mail if you try to contact them. They got our emails to tell us they were suspending our accounts surely they could send us updates no matter how small of progress theya re making. Its called PR.
            I would feel alot better if you could back up your statements with some info that qualifies your statements.

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            1. Admin

              I fully agree that it would be much better if they would communicate more an better.
              I have no concrete evidence to back up my opinions about Sentry Gaming. I am going on my best judgement.
              No doubt, we will find out more soon.

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          2. Carol

            Admin,

            When you look at the big picture, realistically, they ‘Sentry Gaming’ have not identified themselves to us, who are they what do they do, where are they based, what part do they play is this. We as the consumers have a lawful right to know. They havent done anything like that. Just a plain email, that could have been written by anyone, no letterhead even, no nothing.
            Come on people. Its a bit suss to me.
            I really hope I am just being overly cautious.

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          1. Admin

            Or more correctly, thelayexchange is a franchise/affiliate of Sentry Gaming. Sentry Gaming is not involved with the running of thelayexchange.

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        2. Michael

          Hi All,
          Same things happened with me as above. I had emailed UK Home Business on 16th June 2014 to demand a full refund of moneys paid as I believed I had been profoundly mislead by a Leon Johnson of the Gold Coast to get me to signup. Geoff Evans phoned me the following day and we negotiated an extension of the licence on a no-cost basis, and a free switch offer to a higher earning system was emailed to me on 24th February 2014. Michael Pollard had phoned me on 16th December last year with a crazy sounding offer for me to toss in more money and the new scheme would be a real money spinner, which I declined. To me this shouted that the company was near bust.
          Whenever anyone from UK home Business phoned me I emailed them back for them to confirm or correct what was said, and all my outgoing contact was by email as I suspected from early on that this would end in the Courts.
          The phone book adress, and their address on letterheads is 1048-1054 Beaudesert Road, Coopers Plains, Q, 4108. This is an old wharehouse complex with several tennents, and I suspect their offices
          will be locked up now with no sign of life, and rent will be a long way in arrears.
          I must say I had Geoff Evans (or whatever his real name is) pegged as quite an honest and experienced person in the racing industry – but also, if that turns out not to be the case, then it won’t be the first time I have judged people wrongly!
          Thanks to the past worker who has couragely came forward to tell what they know – and I hope to see more post here in coming days.

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    3. Damian

      Hi Philip,
      Do you know the real name of the person going by the name of Rose Thompson?

      Regards

      Damian Straede

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  34. GRAEME

    I have two accounts set up with UK Home Business. One account had a $5000 investment and had accumulated to $15000. The second account had $10000 and had accumulated to $21000. Two weeks ago,the first account dropped in one day to $760 and the second account to minus $894!!!. All this in one day!!. I immediately started trying to contact the company and finally after leaving countless messages on their voicemail was contacted by “Richard” who informed me that there had been a “server glitch ” with a third party system and that UK Home Business was working with them to ascertain what the problem was and should have all accounts returned to their original balances. He told me if I hadn’t heard from him in three days to give him a call on a new 1800 number. I never heard back from him so attempted to contact him on given number. Two weeks later and I am still trying. The voice message is now saying message tape is full and can not accept any more messages. Am holding out hope that this has not gone AWOL although “Richard ” didn’t need to contact me at all if this was the case. However it could have possibly been a ploy to use delaying tactics. Any information on the situation would be greatly appreciated.

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